[SC-MorphLab] a few morpheus questions

[Dennis E. Slice]

Catching up a bit on email. Sorry for the delay.

On 3/9/19 10:21 AM, David Beamer wrote:
> Hello
>
> I have recently begun to use Morpheus as part of a work flow to 
> rapidly produce linear measurements from tps files. Students plot 
> landmarks in tpsDig and the last two landmarks (#11 & #12) are points 
> on a ruler 1 mm apart.
In tps the distance between scale-setting points is irrelevant. I don't 
know what you are digitizing, but 1mm sounds pretty small. For many 
things, I try to have 10cm (100mm) or so. At any rate, the scale should 
be comparable to the size of what you are scaling. Otherwise, scale 
errors can be magnified.
>
> To produce the measurements the tps file is imported into Morpheus and 
> the following command is issued: SUPER BSC 11 12. My understanding is 
> that as long as the distance between these points is 
Unnecessary. Distance between points are independent of any or no 
superimposition.
> 1 mm then issuing the following command: MEASUREMENT ADD DIST svl 1 2 
> should produce measurements in mm's. Can you verify that this is 
> correct? My testing suggests that this is true but 
If you set the scale for mm (and the scale can be 1, 100, or 53 or 
whatever), then resulting measurements from Morpheus will be in mm.
> using the measure tool in tpsDig is very touchy and it is hard to get 
> the exact same number reported in Morpheus. I feel pretty confident in 
> the measurements but having verification that this method is sound 
> would ease my mind!
>
> Following the manual I can make a new tps file from images in Morpheus 
> but I am unclear if landmarks can be plotted in it as well. Is this 
> possible? We run tpsDig in Wine but if we could do the same operation 
> in Morpheus it would reduce the number of software packages in the 
> work flow.
Not sure if I understand the question, but once imported, Morpheus 
should plot the individual image and landmarks. It does not, at this 
point, plot the measurements. I just have neglected adding that due to 
my equivocation on what color to use for measurements and how to who areas.
>
> The final issue may be related to the fact that all of our lab 
> computers are running Linux (Ubuntu) and this is the report of java 
> -version:
>
> java version "1.8.0_201"
> Java(TM) SE Runtime Environment (build 1.8.0_201-b09)
> Java HotSpot(TM) 64-Bit Server VM (build 25.201-b09, mixed mode).
>
> The third mouse button does indeed move the image up/down and 
> left/right however the first and more importantly the second mouse 
> buttons do not function. Is there another way to zoom the image in or 
> out besides the second mouse button?

Mouse button support on different systems is by guesswork - I develop on 
a Mac with a funky apple mouse. Anyway, all functions should be 
available through key+M1. On my Mac, Command+M1 = translation; 
Alt/Option + M1 is scaling with the mouse moving towards/away from you, 
and Control+M1 is just rotation, which is just the M1 function. There 
should be similar key combos available on your system. Try Alt+ and 
Ctrl+ and see if that gets what you want, then try some other key combos 
that might suggest themselves - not sure what you have on your kbd.

Let me know of any continued questions/problems.

Oh, I am interested in your running on a Linux system. I am having 
trouble running Ubuntu under VirtualBox with various (oracle, openjdk) 
versions. What are your...

OS (with version)
Java version: are you running the latest Oracle or Openjdk or do you know?

Best, ds

>
> thanks for your time
>
> David Beamer
>
>
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