From tmontgomery at fsu.edu Tue Jan 9 15:48:16 2024 From: tmontgomery at fsu.edu (Tricia Montgomery) Date: Tue, 9 Jan 2024 20:48:16 +0000 Subject: [Seuce-cci] SEUCE Conference Registration In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Good afternoon, I am the current CAPCSD VP for Professional Development and we are in the process of finalizing room space for the 2024 conference. This is a time-sensitive ask and will need to let the conference planning committee know by Thursday 1/11. Would this group be interested in having a space for networking at the CAPCSD Conference in NOLA this April? If so, I will need a volunteer to be the point of contact with CAPCSD. CAPCSD will have meeting rooms available on Thursday and Friday evenings from 5 PM - 6 PM. CAPCSD will not be providing food, beverage, or audiovisual services. They will just have a room, set up for breakout sessions in theater seating, and it will be available. If there is an interest, I will have a room reserved for SEUCE. Thanks! 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Lalande, M.A. CCC-SLP Director of Clinical Services / Clinical Faculty LSU Speech, Language, Hearing Clinic Department of Communication Sciences & Disorders 54 Hatcher Hall ?mtallo1 at lsu.edu office phone: 225.578.2994 clinic phone: 225.578.9054 clinic fax: 225.578.2995 ....................................................... This email (including any attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 USC. 2510-2521. It is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please reply to the sender that you have received the message in error, and then delete it. Thank you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: From bvalles at utep.edu Wed Jan 24 15:19:42 2024 From: bvalles at utep.edu (Valles, Benigno) Date: Wed, 24 Jan 2024 20:19:42 +0000 Subject: [Seuce-cci] MEDICARE QUESTION In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: Our clinic is completely free. Benny [UTEP] Benigno Valles, PhD, CCC-SLP Clinical Associate Professor Clinic Director Persian Gulf War Veteran Speech-Language Pathology The University of Texas at El Paso 500 W. University Ave. El Paso, TX 79968 Office: 915-747-7209 Cell: 915-867-4274 utep.edu From: Seuce-cci On Behalf Of Melissa T Lalande via Seuce-cci Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 11:57 AM To: seuce-cci at lists.fsu.edu Subject: [Seuce-cci] MEDICARE QUESTION You don't often get email from seuce-cci at lists.fsu.edu. Learn why this is important EXTERNAL EMAIL: This e-mail is from a sender outside of the UTEP system. Please forward suspicious emails to security at utep.edu or call 915.747.6324 Hello from Baton Rouge! Do any of your clinics NOT accept Medicare or private insurance? If so, do you charge any type of processing fees... or is your clinic completely free? Thanks, in advance. -Melissa Melissa T. Lalande, M.A. CCC-SLP Director of Clinical Services / Clinical Faculty LSU Speech, Language, Hearing Clinic Department of Communication Sciences & Disorders 54 Hatcher Hall ?mtallo1 at lsu.edu office phone: 225.578.2994 clinic phone: 225.578.9054 clinic fax: 225.578.2995 ....................................................... This email (including any attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 USC. 2510-2521. It is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please reply to the sender that you have received the message in error, and then delete it. 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Miller, Ed.D., CCC-SLP Director/Associate Professor She/Her Division of Communication Sciences and Disorders 540-542-6540 | su.edu 44160 Scholar Plaza Suite 100, Leesburg VA 20176 On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 3:20?PM Valles, Benigno via Seuce-cci < seuce-cci at lists.fsu.edu> wrote: > Our clinic is completely free. > > Benny > > > > [image: UTEP] > > *Benigno Valles, PhD, CCC-SLP* > Clinical Associate Professor > Clinic Director > > *Persian Gulf War Veteran* > > > > Speech-Language Pathology > The University of Texas at El Paso > 500 W. University Ave. > El Paso, TX 79968 > Office: 915-747-7209 > Cell: 915-867-4274 > > utep.edu > > > > > > > > > > > > > *From:* Seuce-cci * On Behalf Of *Melissa > T Lalande via Seuce-cci > *Sent:* Wednesday, January 24, 2024 11:57 AM > *To:* seuce-cci at lists.fsu.edu > *Subject:* [Seuce-cci] MEDICARE QUESTION > > > > You don't often get email from seuce-cci at lists.fsu.edu. 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Rosie Rosa Lydia (Rosie) Martinez, M.S., CCC-SLP Associate Clinical Professor and Director of Clinical Education OLLU/Woolfolk School of Communication & Sciences Disorders Harry Jersig Center J105 Phone: 210-431-6590 rlmartinez1 at ollusa.edu 2 Timothy 4:22 - The Lord be with your spirit. Grace be with you. [cid:image002.png at 01D816AC.4044DB30] CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email message, including all attachments, is intended for the designated recipient(s). Do not forward this email message in whole or in part without the approval of the sender. It may contain information that is confidential, proprietary, privileged or otherwise protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient(s), please notify the sender of this information and delete your copy at once. Your cooperation is appreciated. ________________________________ From: Seuce-cci on behalf of Valles, Benigno via Seuce-cci Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 2:19 PM To: Melissa T Lalande ; seuce-cci at lists.fsu.edu Subject: Re: [Seuce-cci] MEDICARE QUESTION CAUTION: This email originated from outside of OLLU. Do not reply, click links or open attachments until you have verified the sender's authenticity and know the content is safe. Our clinic is completely free. Benny [UTEP] Benigno Valles, PhD, CCC-SLP Clinical Associate Professor Clinic Director Persian Gulf War Veteran Speech-Language Pathology The University of Texas at El Paso 500 W. University Ave. El Paso, TX 79968 Office: 915-747-7209 Cell: 915-867-4274 utep.edu From: Seuce-cci On Behalf Of Melissa T Lalande via Seuce-cci Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 11:57 AM To: seuce-cci at lists.fsu.edu Subject: [Seuce-cci] MEDICARE QUESTION You don't often get email from seuce-cci at lists.fsu.edu. Learn why this is important EXTERNAL EMAIL: This e-mail is from a sender outside of the UTEP system. Please forward suspicious emails to security at utep.edu or call 915.747.6324 Hello from Baton Rouge! Do any of your clinics NOT accept Medicare or private insurance? If so, do you charge any type of processing fees... or is your clinic completely free? Thanks, in advance. -Melissa Melissa T. Lalande, M.A. CCC-SLP Director of Clinical Services / Clinical Faculty LSU Speech, Language, Hearing Clinic Department of Communication Sciences & Disorders 54 Hatcher Hall ?mtallo1 at lsu.edu office phone: 225.578.2994 clinic phone: 225.578.9054 clinic fax: 225.578.2995 ....................................................... This email (including any attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 USC. 2510-2521. It is confidential and may be legally privileged. 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[A blue circle with a keyhole in it Description automatically generated] Karen Whisenhunt Saar, Ph.D., CCC-SLP (she/her) Assistant Professor Director: Social ACCESS Lab Department of Speech and Hearing Sciences Lamar University (Why do pronouns matter?) This transmission may contain confidential information that is legally protected. As the recipient of this transmission, you are obligated to maintain it in a safe and confidential manner. Unauthorized re-disclosures or a failure to maintain the confidentiality of the information contained herein could subject you to penalties under State and Federal Law. From: Seuce-cci On Behalf Of Miller, Katrina via Seuce-cci Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2024 9:04 AM To: Valles, Benigno Cc: seuce-cci at lists.fsu.edu Subject: Re: [Seuce-cci] MEDICARE QUESTION The clinic at Shenandoah will be completely free. [Image removed by sender.] Katrina E. Miller, Ed.D., CCC-SLP Director/Associate Professor She/Her Division of Communication Sciences and Disorders 540-542-6540 | su.edu 44160 Scholar Plaza Suite 100, Leesburg VA 20176 [Image removed by sender.][Image removed by sender.][Image removed by sender.][Image removed by sender.][Image removed by sender.] On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 3:20?PM Valles, Benigno via Seuce-cci > wrote: Our clinic is completely free. Benny [UTEP] Benigno Valles, PhD, CCC-SLP Clinical Associate Professor Clinic Director Persian Gulf War Veteran Speech-Language Pathology The University of Texas at El Paso 500 W. University Ave. El Paso, TX 79968 Office: 915-747-7209 Cell: 915-867-4274 utep.edu From: Seuce-cci > On Behalf Of Melissa T Lalande via Seuce-cci Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 11:57 AM To: seuce-cci at lists.fsu.edu Subject: [Seuce-cci] MEDICARE QUESTION You don't often get email from seuce-cci at lists.fsu.edu. 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Our clinic is entirely free?no process fees are collected from clients. epe Esther Phillips-Embden MA/CCC/SLP/L Assistant Professor/CSD Clinical Director CSD Faculty Senator AAMU NSSLHA Advisor Communicative Sciences and Disorders Alabama A&M University 256-372-4044/256-372-4055 (fax) 256-457-0141 (mobile) esther.phillips at aamu.edu Book-a-time-to-meet-with-E.Phillips Embden [cid:e99439e0-efdf-435f-930e-5f3f1ab498f7][cid:a989bd64-5eb0-4397-a135-4be6812d5c84] Examine what is said, not who is speaking--African proverb This electronic mail transmission may contain legally privileged and/or confidential information. This message and/or any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the addressee(s). This communication is to be treated as confidential and the information in it may not be used or disclosed except for the purpose for which it was sent. 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Lalande, M.A. CCC-SLP Director of Clinical Services / Clinical Faculty LSU Speech, Language, Hearing Clinic Department of Communication Sciences & Disorders 54 Hatcher Hall ?mtallo1 at lsu.edu office phone: 225.578.2994 clinic phone: 225.578.9054 clinic fax: 225.578.2995 ....................................................... This email (including any attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 USC. 2510-2521. It is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please reply to the sender that you have received the message in error, and then delete it. Thank you. -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: -------------- next part -------------- A non-text attachment was scrubbed... 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Miller, Ed.D., CCC-SLP > > Director/Associate Professor > > She/Her > > Division of Communication Sciences and Disorders > > 540-542-6540 | su.edu > > > 44160 Scholar Plaza Suite 100, Leesburg VA 20176 > > > > > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 3:20?PM Valles, Benigno via Seuce-cci < > seuce-cci at lists.fsu.edu> wrote: > >> Our clinic is completely free. >> >> Benny >> >> >> >> [image: UTEP] >> >> *Benigno Valles, PhD, CCC-SLP* >> Clinical Associate Professor >> Clinic Director >> >> *Persian Gulf War Veteran* >> >> >> >> Speech-Language Pathology >> The University of Texas at El Paso >> 500 W. University Ave. >> El Paso, TX 79968 >> Office: 915-747-7209 >> Cell: 915-867-4274 >> >> utep.edu >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> *From:* Seuce-cci * On Behalf Of *Melissa >> T Lalande via Seuce-cci >> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 24, 2024 11:57 AM >> *To:* seuce-cci at lists.fsu.edu >> *Subject:* [Seuce-cci] MEDICARE QUESTION >> >> >> >> You don't often get email from seuce-cci at lists.fsu.edu. Learn why this >> is important >> >> >> *EXTERNAL EMAIL**: This e-mail is from a sender outside of the UTEP >> system. **Please forward suspicious emails to security at utep.edu >> or call 915.747.6324* >> >> Hello from Baton Rouge! >> >> >> >> Do any of your clinics NOT accept Medicare or private insurance? >> >> >> >> If so, do you charge any type of processing fees... or is your clinic >> completely free? >> >> >> >> Thanks, in advance. >> >> >> >> -Melissa >> >> >> >> >> >> Melissa T. Lalande, M.A. CCC-SLP >> >> Director of Clinical Services / Clinical Faculty >> >> LSU Speech, Language, Hearing Clinic >> >> Department of Communication Sciences & Disorders >> >> >> >> >> >> 54 Hatcher Hall >> >> ?mtallo1 at lsu.edu >> >> office phone: 225.578.2994 >> >> clinic phone: 225.578.9054 >> >> clinic fax: 225.578.2995 >> >> >> >> >> >> ....................................................... >> >> This email (including any attachments) is covered by the Electronic >> Communications Privacy Act, 18 USC. 2510-2521. It is confidential and may >> be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are >> hereby notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution, or copying >> of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please reply to the sender >> that you have received the message in error, and then delete it. 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Darby, M.A., CCC-SLP Clinic Director Harold Powell Speech- Language- Hearing Clinic [South Carolina State University] ________________________________ From: Seuce-cci on behalf of Aimee Adams via Seuce-cci Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2024 10:30 AM To: Miller, Katrina Cc: Ellen Nimmons via Seuce-cci Subject: Re: [Seuce-cci] MEDICARE QUESTION Hi, Here at Southeastern we do not bill any insurance or provider for services. We have fees for service with a sliding scale for those who have a financial need. Ours fees work out to be about 12.00 per session. If a client cannot pay, we often times waive the fees. Thanks and Happy spring semester, Aimee Aimee Quackenbos Adams, M.A. CCC-SLP On Thu, Jan 25, 2024, 9:04?AM Miller, Katrina via Seuce-cci > wrote: The clinic at Shenandoah will be completely free. 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Benny [UTEP] Benigno Valles, PhD, CCC-SLP Clinical Associate Professor Clinic Director Persian Gulf War Veteran Speech-Language Pathology The University of Texas at El Paso 500 W. University Ave. El Paso, TX 79968 Office: 915-747-7209 Cell: 915-867-4274 utep.edu From: Seuce-cci > On Behalf Of Melissa T Lalande via Seuce-cci Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 11:57 AM To: seuce-cci at lists.fsu.edu Subject: [Seuce-cci] MEDICARE QUESTION You don't often get email from seuce-cci at lists.fsu.edu. Learn why this is important EXTERNAL EMAIL: This e-mail is from a sender outside of the UTEP system. Please forward suspicious emails to security at utep.edu or call 915.747.6324 Hello from Baton Rouge! Do any of your clinics NOT accept Medicare or private insurance? If so, do you charge any type of processing fees... or is your clinic completely free? Thanks, in advance. -Melissa Melissa T. Lalande, M.A. CCC-SLP Director of Clinical Services / Clinical Faculty LSU Speech, Language, Hearing Clinic Department of Communication Sciences & Disorders 54 Hatcher Hall ?mtallo1 at lsu.edu office phone: 225.578.2994 clinic phone: 225.578.9054 clinic fax: 225.578.2995 ....................................................... This email (including any attachments) is covered by the Electronic Communications Privacy Act, 18 USC. 2510-2521. It is confidential and may be legally privileged. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any retention, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. Please reply to the sender that you have received the message in error, and then delete it. 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Given the regulations required to maintain a fee-for-service clinic, our clinic at Salus University is also free. https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.capcsd.org/university-clinics-and-medicare/__;!!PhOWcWs!1hnLEhmEtUEAhNd9jtDXMBTHj_wq0dMp1oaEmCr7RVJCI_gakXqgwSfXafiX3CfWPPwFLP6XWHj7HaAcmn5j7zT83A$ Thanks, Bob On Wed, Jan 24, 2024 at 1:57?PM Melissa T Lalande via Seuce-cci < seuce-cci at lists.fsu.edu> wrote: > Hello from Baton Rouge! > > Do any of your clinics NOT accept Medicare or private insurance? > > If so, do you charge any type of processing fees... or is your clinic > completely free? > > Thanks, in advance. > > -Melissa > > > Melissa T. 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We do have some specialized programs that we charge a fee for and do not bill insurance. Rhiannon Phillips, MS, CCC-SLP, CBIS Clinical Instructor/SLP Clinical Coordinator East Carolina University Department of Communication Sciences and Disorders 3310Z Health Sciences Building, Mailstop 668, Greenville, NC 27858 Phone: 252-744-6080 Fax: 252-744-6109 phillipsrh17 at ecu.edu CONFIDENTIALITY NOTICE: This email may contain confidential health information that is legally privileged. This information is intended for the use of the named recipient. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, distribution, or action taken in reliance on the contents of this email is strictly prohibited. If you receive this email message in error, please notify the sender immediately to arrange disposition of the information. 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Today's Topics: 1. Re: MEDICARE QUESTION (Darby, Shirlain) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2024 21:34:12 +0000 From: "Darby, Shirlain" To: "Miller, Katrina" , Aimee Adams Cc: Ellen Nimmons via Seuce-cci Subject: Re: [Seuce-cci] MEDICARE QUESTION Message-ID: Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Good Afternoon, The Harold Powell Speech-Language-Hearing Clinic at South Carolina State University is a free clinic. Shirlain J. Darby, M.A., CCC-SLP Clinic Director Harold Powell Speech- Language- Hearing Clinic [South Carolina State University] ________________________________ From: Seuce-cci on behalf of Aimee Adams via Seuce-cci Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2024 10:30 AM To: Miller, Katrina Cc: Ellen Nimmons via Seuce-cci Subject: Re: [Seuce-cci] MEDICARE QUESTION Hi, Here at Southeastern we do not bill any insurance or provider for services. We have fees for service with a sliding scale for those who have a financial need. Ours fees work out to be about 12.00 per session. If a client cannot pay, we often times waive the fees. Thanks and Happy spring semester, Aimee Aimee Quackenbos Adams, M.A. CCC-SLP On Thu, Jan 25, 2024, 9:04?AM Miller, Katrina via Seuce-cci > wrote: The clinic at Shenandoah will be completely free. 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Miller, Ed.D., CCC-SLP Director/Associate Professor She/Her Division of Communication Sciences and Disorders 540-542-6540 | su.edu> 44160 Scholar Plaza Suite 100, Leesburg VA 20176 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Benny [UTEP] Benigno Valles, PhD, CCC-SLP Clinical Associate Professor Clinic Director Persian Gulf War Veteran Speech-Language Pathology The University of Texas at El Paso 500 W. University Ave. El Paso, TX 79968 Office: 915-747-7209 Cell: 915-867-4274 utep.edu> From: Seuce-cci > On Behalf Of Melissa T Lalande via Seuce-cci Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2024 11:57 AM To: seuce-cci at lists.fsu.edu Subject: [Seuce-cci] MEDICARE QUESTION You don't often get email from seuce-cci at lists.fsu.edu. Learn why this is important> EXTERNAL EMAIL: This e-mail is from a sender outside of the UTEP system. Please forward suspicious emails to security at utep.edu or call 915.747.6324 Hello from Baton Rouge! Do any of your clinics NOT accept Medicare or private insurance? If so, do you charge any type of processing fees... or is your clinic completely free? Thanks, in advance. -Melissa Melissa T. 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